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Finally, someone advocating using good sense when using the rules of English!
That's the catch, though, isn't it? We do have to know the rules in order to twist them just a bit.
I am also impressed with the graph you added. I'm glad I'm finally catching up to your posts!


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    The best thing to do is learn the basics and take it from there. There are too many experts and most of them don't agree. G
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Some good advice here, G. Balance and personal voice. It's interesting to get different perspectives here on FS to a particular piece of writing or turn of phrase but, as with all advice, one must learn when to take it and when to leave it. That's an interesting chart you've used to illustrate your point!


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    Hi tony, yeah, so many people give their thoughts but a lot end up with different ideas so it's having the vision, basics, and knowledge of knowing what to listen to. G
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Hello G,
As advice goes, this is one of the more palatable articles I've read.
What would a rainbow be if it had only on color?
Some would like to lock up all adverbs and throw away the key.
I think adverbs serve a useful purpose. Based on your chart, many writers agree.

I usually quote a passage James Joyce when I get complaints about adverbs.

It was falling too upon every part of the lonely churchyard where Michael Furey lay buried. It lay thickly drifted on the crooked crosses and headstones, on the spears of the little gate, on the barren thorns. His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.

To me, that is great writing.

Enjoyed your article

Robert





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    I really appreciate your thoughts on this one. I would be a very boring palette if only one colour was used, wouldn't it. A good strong balance in all things I believe is the way to go.

    So true, that is a great piece of writing, it's poetic, lyrical almost with that lilting tone to it that resonates and moves.

    When language is used efficiently, and truly crafted it has the power to move, to draw in and to paint a picture, whether that be through poetry or prose.

    I want to feel something when I read (especially in poetry). I want to be moved and to be affected. feelings come in all shapes - good, bad and indifferent, much like the articles of language, but when pushed together in the right way, something beautiful can come out.

    Always appreciated, Robert. G
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GIRAFFMANG

Excellent advice. Thank you very much. I don't know what the big deal is about adverbs. I mean, really, we use different spices for cooking don't we. A cleave cook doesn't over spice nor is their food drab. Take out all the adverbs what do you have?
Drab.

"Have fun, or else why bother?" Exactly. This writing stuff is exciting.

Rickie


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    Precisely, a judicious approach. lol
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Cheers, Mr. G;
> Finally got around to it but I really like this effective essay. As you know, I also bookmark it.
>You bring up some very valid points as I was told many times To cut on my adverbs and I even cut down on adjectives when needed and increased my verbs.
> It's amazing that Hemingway only used 80 adverbs and 10,000 words.
That is totally fascinating.
> And then I see Rowling's and Stephen King using umpteen adverbs and there work. I guess in Rowling's magic needs to have adverbs to describe what the magicians are doing and embellish it for the children.
>Stephen King on the other hand has to really embellish the gory scenes for the scenes of anxiety's anticipation.
> I don't know, butI did find it interesting. Especially when you say read!
> Read a lot and read everything.
> My library is three tiers of shelves of ovver 200 books. Mostly poetry and books and how to book saying don't do it in books and stick it up your what books, I pretty much got them all but the most wwhen I use the rest is the Bible it's got some really good stories and their especially the ones that scare people in the back. they're sure are going to hell or Pluto.
>Thanks a lot for an enlightening piece of work, Mr. G, and take care and have a good one.
Alx


 Comment Written 21-Oct-2018



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    I've lost count of the amount of books I've read. usually one a week, it used to be more. lol Cheers G

reply by krys123 on 24-Oct-2018
    I've been reading a lot of poetry books that are coming in the mail from organizations that I joined.
    Trying to get a well-rounded outlook on people.
    Alx
    as a lot of books, Mr. G!
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It's extremely exciting. I am a first grade teacher and my main job is to teach children to read. I love it. Reading opens up an entire new world and experiences to children. I want to comment on one thing you said. I agree some of the stories I review on this site, I would not read because I don't like or approve of the subject matter, but, that being said, I learn something from every thing I read.


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    My little one is moving on with her reading and writing pretty well now. She's seven but does have additional needs. She's also very literal which makes for interesting times!. lol
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Gareth, this is wonderful, exiting and so spot on. Now, How do I dare having an opinion at all? English is not my first language so what would I know? I agree with you, reading is important and foremost in expanding and learning different genres. I think my library bear testimony to that. Apart from some Spanish volumes and Danish ones all is in English. And yes, I still do have a life apart from writing. Hence I'm always behind in reviewing. So all in all, we're in agreement. All best. Ulla:)))


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    I'll give most things a go, but some I find hard going but it all helps in the long run. G
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Nicely done, G. I'm reading "A Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert Heinlein, and it contains a copious amount of adverbs. However, if wasn't a writer, I don't think I would notice or frankly care about it. Thanks for the food for thought.

Take care,
Russell


 Comment Written 20-Oct-2018



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    I think we see it more. Mind you, my wife continually complains about bad writing in books. lol
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I admit to warning wanna be writers to exorcize those adverbs ending in -ly, but have to admit sometimes there is no around it. Reading a lot is great advice. I find myself attentive to punctuation and use of italics as I follow the story line. As for editing (I'm working on that now with a biography written three years ago) I erase unnecessary 'and's' and 'just' as well as 'now'.
Thanks for the refresher course.


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    It's like anything, it's getting a balance. G
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When I first came to FS, reviewers told me what not to do. I tried that. I edited, changed wording, phrasing. In the end, the work wasn't better. It wasn't even mine anymore. So, I began to take advice, but with caution, not so strictly. (Yes, I do use adverbs, especially in flash fiction where brevity is essential. And during action scenes where slowing down to describe what can be said with one word would fuck with pacing.)
I love the chart. I guess nobody told those writers not to use adverbs. Imagine how much longer their already tediously long, but wonderful, works would be without beautiful adverbs.


 Comment Written 19-Oct-2018



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    lol, many thanks E. Folk take too much for granted and at face value. I love getting reviews from Rama as I can talk to her about issues around interpretation, as frequently there are some. Others tell you do not do this, rather than suggest. It's just keeping a clear head and sorting. G

reply by barkingdog on 20-Oct-2018
    I love Rama's input too. She's a gem--a wealth of information and always kind.
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